Departing from Daniel Steegmann Mangrané’s animation on st_age, this conversation with the artist explores his long term interest in Amazonian ecology and how it has led to a deeper understanding of the Ameridian perspectives in his practice. Steegmann unpacks some of the questions raised in his Episode’s st_age podcast, and describes his connection with APIB (Articulation of Indigenous Peoples of Brazil) the organization of the Call for Action.